[memcom] Re: New Members
Liz Glassell
glassell@sbcglobal.net
Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:36:43 -0500
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Bruce,
I think this is certainly worth discussion.
Liz
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From: SailPlay@aol.com=20
To: memcom@usps.org=20
Cc: Petepeterson48@aol.com ; TAMC55@flash.net=20
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 12:06 PM
Subject: [memcom] Re: New Members
In a message dated 1/21/2005 11:20:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, =
Petepeterson48 writes:
Thank you for the information and following up with me. I have =
passed this information to our executive board. However, I still think =
that by requiring the test first, prior to joining the squadron, is =
putting the cart before the horse. We need to make the class available =
to the public and we are doing this. But, Only a small percentage of the =
people taking the boat smart class are joining the squadron. I would not =
have any problem telling a member that they need to pass the test within =
12 months or forfeit their membership. The way it is currently set up it =
seems kind of elitist and turns some people off. I think that if they =
get to know us and why we think these classes are so important they =
would not have any trouble meeting the requirement to pass the test =
within 12 months of joining. Meanwhile, they have become members and =
that membership becomes important to them.
I will try to get our board to bring copies of the test and the boat =
smart manual to the general membership meetings and arranging to offer =
the test perhaps after the general membership meeting if the student =
does not need to go through the class. I think that will help, but I =
hope that you will think about how my suggestion will work rather than =
what the down side is to it. It seems that we need to continue to look =
for ways to streamline the process to appeal to a broader group of =
people. I joined 20 years ago to learn how to navigate and somewhere =
along the line I decided that I liked to be around people who boat =
safely and want to further their boating education. I was transferred to =
Kentucky from Atlanta, GA and was out of boating for several years and =
then when I got back into boating I had trouble even finding a local =
squadron.=20
Sincerely,
Pete Peterson
OK committee, is it time we, membership committee, recommend what Pete =
suggests?=20
Let folks join without passing an exam, but, requiring they pass an =
approved exam within 1 year or other time frame. "Seamanship" would be =
My preferred approved exam.
I need, require your input, please.
Remember, USPS is made up of many differenet types of boating areas. =
Coastal, inland rivers and lakes, and oceans.=20
My opinion, a member of USPS is a better boater or potential than =
those not a member. Let's get them in and then help them train to become =
an improved, confident skipper.
Bruce Troth, AP
USPS, ChMemCom
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bruce,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I think this is certainly worth =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Liz</FONT></DIV>
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2005 12:06=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [memcom] Re: New =
Members</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 1/21/2005 11:20:39 AM Pacific Standard Time,=20
Petepeterson48 writes:</DIV>
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<DIV>Thank you for the information and following up with me. I have =
passed=20
this information to our executive board. However, I still think that =
by=20
requiring the test first, prior to joining the squadron, is putting =
the cart=20
before the horse. We need to make the class available to the =
public and=20
we are doing this. But, Only a small percentage of the people taking =
the=20
boat smart class are joining the squadron. I would not have any =
problem=20
telling a member that they need to pass the test within 12 =
months=20
or forfeit their membership. The way it is currently set up it seems =
kind of=20
elitist and turns some people off. I think that if they get to know =
us and=20
why we think these classes are so important they would not have any =
trouble=20
meeting the requirement to pass the test within 12 months of =
joining.=20
Meanwhile, they have become members and that membership becomes =
important to=20
them.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I will try to get our board to bring copies of the test and the =
boat=20
smart manual to the general membership meetings and arranging to =
offer the=20
test perhaps after the general membership meeting if the student =
does not=20
need to go through the class. I think that will help, but I hope =
that you=20
will think about how my suggestion will work rather than what the =
down side=20
is to it. It seems that we need to continue to look for ways to =
streamline=20
the process to appeal to a broader group of people. I joined 20 =
years ago to=20
learn how to navigate and somewhere along the line I decided that I =
liked to=20
be around people who boat safely and want to further their boating=20
education. I was transferred to Kentucky from Atlanta, GA and was =
out of=20
boating for several years and then when I got back into boating I =
had=20
trouble even finding a local squadron. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Sincerely,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Pete Peterson</DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV>OK committee, is it time we, membership committee, recommend what =
Pete=20
suggests? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Let folks join without passing an exam, but, requiring they pass =
an=20
approved exam within 1 year or other time frame. "Seamanship" would be =
My=20
preferred approved exam.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I need, require your input, please.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Remember, USPS is made up of many differenet types of boating =
areas.=20
Coastal, inland rivers and lakes, and oceans. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My opinion, a member of USPS is a better boater or potential than =
those=20
not a member. Let's get them in and then help them train to become an=20
improved, confident skipper.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial size=3D3 PTSIZE=3D"12" =
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><B><I>Bruce=20
Troth, AP</B></I><BR><B><I>USPS,=20
ChMemCom</B></I></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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