[Psml] Name Change "Sail and Power Squadron"

Fri Apr 17 12:57:05 EDT 2009

To: Brian Logan

You are gong to receive mixed reactions to the change.  I'm just one P/C 
voice from our squadron who added the "sail" designation years ago. 
Personally I don't see where it made a membership difference but it sure 
became a mouthful and  more difficult/expensive to convey in our PR 
Advertising efforts.

It is my opinion the change should be to "U.S. Boating Squadrons" but alas, 
I digress from the heart of your question.

P/C Craig McConnaughey, AP*
Diablo Sail and Power Squadron
Craig at McConnaughey.com

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> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:29:20 -0400
> From: <bats_wings at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [Psml] Info sought on name change to "Sail and Power
> Squadron"
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> I'd like to ask squadrons who have changed their names what their 
> experience has been.
>
> What was the reason for the change?
>
> What is the procedure to do it (we are an Ohio squadron) ?  What was the 
> cost?
>
> Did it seem to make any difference in recruiting new members?  Did it 
> alienate members in long standing?
>
> Thanks for any info you can give me.
>
>
> P/D/C Brian Logan, SN
> bats_wings at sbcglobal.net
>
> Akron Power Squadron
> www.akronpowersquadron.com
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> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:31:45 -0400
> From: Dan Bartell <dtb at usps.org>
> Subject: Re: [Psml] Info sought on name change to "Sail and Power
> Squadron"
> To: <bats_wings at sbcglobal.net>
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> Brian,
>
> Adding Sail & Power to your name is no big thing just change your
> bylaws and you are OK when you go through the process which is not
> difficult.  I have been in two squadrons where I have personally managed 
> this.
>
> If you actually change your squadron name you go through the same
> thing but you need to change your legal incorporation.  That is a
> hassle of the first order.
>
> In some states you can use the DBA (Doing Business As) clause to get
> you buy.  I am not a lawyer you need to check your state laws.
>
> Squadrons have changed their names and it is not a problem with HQ or
> with me on changing information on the server.  I will even set up a
> history record so your name change is shown.
>
> As to success, I have managed the squadron database on the server for
> about 15 years and my personal view from watching squadrons in
> trouble is that it doesn't make any difference.  If your squadron is
> solid and folks want to change go for it.
>
> What's wrong with Akron, with 214 members you are in great shape?
>
> Remember there are costs and personal time requirements for changing
> letter heads and bank accounts and general hassles from suppliers
> when you do it.
>
> Good Luck,
> Dan
> At 10:29 PM 4/16/2009, bats_wings at sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>I'd like to ask squadrons who have changed their names what their
>>experience has been.
>>
>>What was the reason for the change?
>>
>>What is the procedure to do it (we are an Ohio squadron) ?  What was the 
>>cost?
>>
>>Did it seem to make any difference in recruiting new members?  Did
>>it alienate members in long standing?
>>
>>Thanks for any info you can give me.
>>
>>
>>P/D/C Brian Logan, SN
>><mailto:bats_wings at sbcglobal.net>bats_wings at sbcglobal.net
>>
>>Akron Power Squadron
>><http://www.akronpowersquadron.com>www.akronpowersquadron.com
>>
>>
>>
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> _______________________________________________
> P/C Dan Bartell, SN
> SEO - Shallotte River Sail & Power Squadron - D27 (NC)
> Member USPS National Information Technology Committee
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> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:36:57 -0400
> From: "Harleigh Ewell" <hewell at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Psml] Info sought on name change to "Sail and Power
> Squadron"
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> When I was Commander in 2002-3, our squadron had about 65 members, and it
> was not clear that we were going to be able to continue.  One of my
> priorities was to change the name to better reflect the actual makeup and
> purpose of the squadron.  Thus, we adopted the Sail and Power option.  I 
> am
> not aware of anyone who dropped out because of that.  On the other hand, 
> our
> membership is now about 120, and the squadron is thriving.  I attribute 
> this
> in large part to the efforts of the new sailor-members that we attracted,
> who, I believe, would not have joined without the name change and the
> efforts of the prior sailor-members who were energized by it.  Many of our
> members have told me this also.  The renewed enthusiasm is shared by our
> power boating members as well.  We are fortunate in the quality of the
> individuals who are active in the squadron, and we have a lot of sailors 
> in
> this area, so the effect on other squadrons may not be as dramatic as ours
> was.
>
>
>
> The procedure for doing the change is explained in the Operating Manual,
> which is available online.  We also had to register the name change with 
> the
> State of Maryland, which involved only a simple form and a copy of the new
> bylaws.
>
>
>
> I cannot understand why the national organization has not yet changed its
> name.
>
>
>
> P/C Harleigh Ewell, JN
>
> Rockville Sail and Power Squadron
>
>
>
>
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> Cc: United States Power Squadrons Mailing List
> Subject: [Psml] Info sought on name change to "Sail and Power Squadron"
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>
>
> I'd like to ask squadrons who have changed their names what their 
> experience
> has been.
>
>
>
> What was the reason for the change?
>
>
>
> What is the procedure to do it (we are an Ohio squadron) ?  What was the
> cost?
>
>
>
> Did it seem to make any difference in recruiting new members?  Did it
> alienate members in long standing?
>
>
>
> Thanks for any info you can give me.
>
>
>
>
>
> P/D/C Brian Logan, SN
>
> bats_wings at sbcglobal.net
>
>
>
> Akron Power Squadron
>
> www.akronpowersquadron.com
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