[Psml] PIN Codes

[Tony Whitman]

Hi Kristi:

All other TSPS members have already received their dues notices for 
this year. Also last year I received a notice.

Am the Treasurer so he is already notified but am at a loss as to 
whom I should contact

Cheers,

Tony



At 09:00 4/27/2009, Kristi W. Anderson wrote:
>My husband is a life member and did get his notice and PIN.  So, not sure
>about your mail or maybe since this is sent via bulk mail (I am assuming)
>that it is still to arrive for you and your zip code.  Ask if others in your
>squadron have received them.  If you don't get it in a month, I would let
>your treasurer know.  Also, I show your mailing address as JAPAN.  That
>probably has something to do with it.  :-)
>
>Kristi Anderson
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: psml-bounces at usps.org [mailto:psml-bounces at usps.org] On Behalf Of Tony
>Whitman
>Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:31 PM
>To: kayaklady at cfl.rr.com
>Cc: Dan Bartell; tamc55 at flash.net; United States Power Squadrons Mailing
>List; jtausps at connectnc.net; Dave Hinders
>Subject: Re: [Psml] PIN Codes
>
>Hi:
>
>Thank you for the explanation, but should point out that Life members
>don't get dues notices or at least I didn't.
>
>Regards,
>
>Tony Whitman
>
>
>
>At 04:05 4/27/2009, John R. Bradley wrote:
> >Most people understand that logging on (as you must do before reaching the
> >member only part of the USPS website) using a certificate number and ZIP
> >code is far from secure. To make this identification process more certain,
> >we elected to assign a unique PIN to every member.  Now we could have sent
>a
> >notification letter to each member via first class mail, but the costs
>would
> >have been prohibitive.  Instead, to save money, we elected to include the
> >PIN code notification as part of the dues renewal package that goes to each
> >member a couple of months before their membership renewal date.
> >Unfortunately, members have either discarded the mail without reading it;
> >wrongly inferred from the fact that it came with the dues renewal package
> >that it was now necessary to use the PIN to logon to pay dues online; or
> >read the instructions on the yellow insert and followed them.
> >Because we were getting so many questions, we put up a lengthy explanation
> >on the Information Center pages explaining how to recover from a lost PIN,
> >etc. That seemed to do more harm than good. One response sent to the C/C
> >from certificate number ******* ZIP 03246 was the following:
> >
> >This is the first negative thing I have come across with USPS.  I just read
> >a huge dissertation on how I can get on a "secure portion " of the National
> >website.  In the past, it has just been my membership number and mailing
>zip
> >code. EVEN my credit card company wants less proof of who I am (last four
> >numbers of CC and zip code)..
> >I had a TS/C (Top Secret/ Crypto) security clearance when I was in the
> >service with less crap.
> >Please. What is the logic behind the complexities?
> >
> >While this response substantially underplays the identification process
> >required by credit card companies and the FBI/DIA, what the member also
> >forgets is that the credit card company originally mailed the credit card
>to
> >him so he would know what the last 4 digits were. Also, when they speak to
> >you on the phone, they know, outside of callerID, the phone number you are
> >calling from and can determine from that in many cases if you are who you
> >say you are.
> >
> >So, to bring this brouhaha to a close, The PIN code has nothing to do with
> >paying dues. Sometime within the next year when you receive your dues
> >renewal, look for the PIN code and yellow insert and follow the
>instructions
> >on it.
> >
> >When all of this has settled down, and everyone has a PIN code and has
> >chosen a security question and answer, we will be able to create web based
> >facilities that require absolute identification of the member on the other
> >end of the connection.
> >
> >R/C John R. Bradley, SN
> >Chair USPS Information Technology Committee
> >60 Old Brook Road
> >Dix Hills, NY 11746-6432
> >(800) 777-3770 ext.203 Office
> >(631) 546-5768 Home
> >(631) 274-2103 FAX
> >jrb at accurecord.com
> >
> >
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