[Psml] PIN Codes

[Kristi W. Anderson]

My husband is a life member and did get his notice and PIN.  So, not sure
about your mail or maybe since this is sent via bulk mail (I am assuming)
that it is still to arrive for you and your zip code.  Ask if others in your
squadron have received them.  If you don't get it in a month, I would let
your treasurer know.  Also, I show your mailing address as JAPAN.  That
probably has something to do with it.  :-)

Kristi Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: psml-bounces at usps.org [mailto:psml-bounces at usps.org] On Behalf Of Tony
Whitman
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:31 PM
To: kayaklady at cfl.rr.com
Cc: Dan Bartell; tamc55 at flash.net; United States Power Squadrons Mailing
List; jtausps at connectnc.net; Dave Hinders
Subject: Re: [Psml] PIN Codes

Hi:

Thank you for the explanation, but should point out that Life members 
don't get dues notices or at least I didn't.

Regards,

Tony Whitman



At 04:05 4/27/2009, John R. Bradley wrote:
>Most people understand that logging on (as you must do before reaching the
>member only part of the USPS website) using a certificate number and ZIP
>code is far from secure. To make this identification process more certain,
>we elected to assign a unique PIN to every member.  Now we could have sent
a
>notification letter to each member via first class mail, but the costs
would
>have been prohibitive.  Instead, to save money, we elected to include the
>PIN code notification as part of the dues renewal package that goes to each
>member a couple of months before their membership renewal date.
>Unfortunately, members have either discarded the mail without reading it;
>wrongly inferred from the fact that it came with the dues renewal package
>that it was now necessary to use the PIN to logon to pay dues online; or
>read the instructions on the yellow insert and followed them.
>Because we were getting so many questions, we put up a lengthy explanation
>on the Information Center pages explaining how to recover from a lost PIN,
>etc. That seemed to do more harm than good. One response sent to the C/C
>from certificate number ******* ZIP 03246 was the following:
>
>This is the first negative thing I have come across with USPS.  I just read
>a huge dissertation on how I can get on a "secure portion " of the National
>website.  In the past, it has just been my membership number and mailing
zip
>code. EVEN my credit card company wants less proof of who I am (last four
>numbers of CC and zip code)..
>I had a TS/C (Top Secret/ Crypto) security clearance when I was in the
>service with less crap.
>Please. What is the logic behind the complexities?
>
>While this response substantially underplays the identification process
>required by credit card companies and the FBI/DIA, what the member also
>forgets is that the credit card company originally mailed the credit card
to
>him so he would know what the last 4 digits were. Also, when they speak to
>you on the phone, they know, outside of callerID, the phone number you are
>calling from and can determine from that in many cases if you are who you
>say you are.
>
>So, to bring this brouhaha to a close, The PIN code has nothing to do with
>paying dues. Sometime within the next year when you receive your dues
>renewal, look for the PIN code and yellow insert and follow the
instructions
>on it.
>
>When all of this has settled down, and everyone has a PIN code and has
>chosen a security question and answer, we will be able to create web based
>facilities that require absolute identification of the member on the other
>end of the connection.
>
>R/C John R. Bradley, SN
>Chair USPS Information Technology Committee
>60 Old Brook Road
>Dix Hills, NY 11746-6432
>(800) 777-3770 ext.203 Office
>(631) 546-5768 Home
>(631) 274-2103 FAX
>jrb at accurecord.com
>
>
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