[ve-l] RE: [Psml] FW: Online VSC reporting for Apprentice/Sea Scout VEs

Fri, 7 Jul 2006 16:19:35 -0700

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John,

Point taken. I was trying to prevent another firestorm and got carried away
in the moment. My apologies to Dana.

Cheers,

Bob 

  _____  

From: John [mailto:jshivik@cox.net] 
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 4:09 PM
To: Robert Miller; w6dbm@arrl.net; psml@usps.org; ve-l@usps.org
Subject: RE: [Psml] FW: Online VSC reporting for Apprentice/Sea Scout VEs

Bob,

        Dana has a good comment. I find it interesting that you should slam
Dana via broadcast, too. IMHO, time to recognize there was a problem and
correct it. Then let it go. 

P/C John Shivik, AP
Northern Virginia Sail and Power Squadron
District 5

At 06:02 PM 7/7/2006, Robert Miller wrote:

Dana,

I find it interesting that you chose to broadcast your question and
condemnation to both the VE list and to PSML without ever asking the
responsible people if it might be a simple oversight, which it is. Had you
either contacted me or headquarters the oversight would have been rectified.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. It will be fixed as soon as it
can be coordinated with the headquarters systems folks next week as they
have gone home for the weekend.

Stf/C Bob Miller

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From: psml-admin@usps.org [  <mailto:psml-admin@usps.org>
mailto:psml-admin@usps.org] On Behalf Of Dana
McRae
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 2:44 PM
To: psml@usps.org
Subject: [Psml] FW: Online VSC reporting for Apprentice/Sea Scout VEs

From: "Dana McRae" <sv_wavelength@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: w6dbm@arrl.net
To: ve-l@usps.org
Subject: Online VSC reporting for Apprentice/Sea Scout VEs
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 14:37:48 -0700

I note with interest that, as of just moments ago, one is still prevented
from entering an Apprentice/Sea Scout certificate number (e.g., APnnnn) into
the online reporting form.

This is obviously nothing more than the form designer's "entry format check"
embedded into the form itself.
The resulting screamer response is much too quick to be anything else.

I've only been waiting for at least five months, now.
I find it morally difficult to encourage young people to become VEs when I
know I will be unable to report their efforts.

I guess USPS just doesn't want young people involved.

Oh well.  At this rate, it'll all be over soon.

Respectfully submitted,

P/C Dana McRae AP
MemCom/Ch/Youth Activities;
D/Ch/Sea Scouts Liaison, D13;
SEO & Ch/VSCCom, Tres Rios

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