[ve-l] Display of ducumented number

[Richard]

Sorry,  the previous email got sent accidently without the following.  In
regards to documented vessels,  there is no number visible.  The state
registration must be visible on the forward half of the hull if required by
your state, but documentation number with or with the no. if front of it is
permanently affixed to the hull, usually somewhere in the engine room or
even on the underside of a stringer.    There is not a requirement that I am
aware of that the number must be visible as a state registration number is.
The documented NAME of the vessel and its hailing port must be clearly
visible and not covered by a dinghy.

Richard


P/C  Richard Kay, JN
Commander
Seattle Sail and Power Squadron
Vessel Safety Examiner
"Boating is fun, We'll show you how"

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Reuters
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 8:55 AM
To: richard at imaging-resources.com
Cc: 'Vessel Examiners Discussion Group'
Subject: Re: [ve-l] Display of ducumented number

Hi Julie,

I think the marker would be a questionable one but in general I always pass
them with out the NO prefix.  If the CG is not citing them for violation
(news to me) then an examiner should not hesitate to award a sticker.  

Also, as an examiner, I never use the words pass or fail to describe the end
result of an exam.  I prefer the answer in the upper right hand corner of
the VSC form - Decal Awarded: Yes_ No_. I would like to see national also
change the data collection fields and use the words describing the end
result of a VE as used on the exam form.  
My 2 cents, Ray



-----Original Message-----
From: ve-l-bounces at usps.org [mailto:ve-l-bounces at usps.org] On Behalf Of
julienp at comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:01 AM
To: Ray Reuter
Cc: Vessel Examiners Discussion Group
Subject: [ve-l] Display of ducumented number

We have been involved in an ongoing debate regarding whether to pass or fail
a documented vessel that does not have the REQUIRED "No." in front of the
number. It is clearly not "up to snuff," but should we fail a vessel? It is
not a safety issue, obviously, and the Coast Guard and DNR have both
acknowledged that they will not fine a boater without the abbreviation in
front of the number.

What would be an acceptable presentation? A permanent marker overlaid with
epoxy? Painted on letters? Would you advocate that they have a new wooden
plaque made and then attached before you would issue them a decal?

I really could use some guidance here.

Thank you,
Julien

Lt. Julien P. Hofberg, JN, VE, VSE Chairman
Rockville Sail and Power Squadron



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