From roger.b.penneman at lmco.com  Wed Mar 12 14:48:27 2008
From: roger.b.penneman at lmco.com (Penneman, Roger B)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:48:27 -0500
Subject: [Webmaster_forum] Secure web site area for members only
Message-ID: <708B267DA6CD0A4484FB84973D64B4630F3D3544@emss07m15.us.lmco.com>

Is this technique for creating password-protected areas on squadron
websites still valid? 
http://www.usps.org/national/itcom/shared/help/simple_password.html 

Lately it seems that anything on the national server is available to
Google, to the point that I now have to scrub our newsletter before
posting a pdf version.  So I want to set up a secure area for pages that
contain private information.  Any tips? 

Thanks.

Roger Penneman
Fort Worth

From plarcuni at sprynet.com  Wed Mar 12 15:36:43 2008
From: plarcuni at sprynet.com (Phil Arcuni)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:36:43 -0400
Subject: [Webmaster_forum] Secure web site area for members only
References: <708B267DA6CD0A4484FB84973D64B4630F3D3544@emss07m15.us.lmco.com>
Message-ID: <00d501c8847a$697b3d60$6501a8c0@phildesktop>

Hello,

This scheme is still posted, and you are the most knowledgeable on the 
subject. I did notice that the older IP address is still showing. Please 
respond to the query at your earliest convenience.

Best, Phil

P/R/C Philip Arcuni, SN
Information Technology Committee

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Penneman, Roger B" <roger.b.penneman at lmco.com>
To: <plarcuni at sprynet.com>
Cc: "two way communication for webmasters" <webmaster_forum at usps.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:48 PM
Subject: [Webmaster_forum] Secure web site area for members only


> Is this technique for creating password-protected areas on squadron
> websites still valid?
> http://www.usps.org/national/itcom/shared/help/simple_password.html
>
> Lately it seems that anything on the national server is available to
> Google, to the point that I now have to scrub our newsletter before
> posting a pdf version.  So I want to set up a secure area for pages that
> contain private information.  Any tips?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Roger Penneman
> Fort Worth
> _______________________________________________
> Webmaster_Forum mailing list
> Webmaster_Forum at usps.org
> http://www.usps.org/mailman/listinfo/webmaster_forum 


From webmaster at bpsd9.org  Wed Mar 12 18:02:54 2008
From: webmaster at bpsd9.org (Lt. Julian Fiander, P)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:02:54 -0400
Subject: [Webmaster_forum] Secure web site area for members only
In-Reply-To: <00d501c8847a$697b3d60$6501a8c0@phildesktop>
References: <708B267DA6CD0A4484FB84973D64B4630F3D3544@emss07m15.us.lmco.com>
	<00d501c8847a$697b3d60$6501a8c0@phildesktop>
Message-ID: <e713dcfd0803121502g2dc86b5eq34f686565a9d66fc@mail.gmail.com>

If the National servers have access to PHP and MySQL (I wouldn't know, as my
squadron hosts its own site), I can offer a very useful, customizable option
for anyone who needs a password-protected area.

If you would like help, please email me directly.

Lt. Julian Fiander
  Birmingham Power Squadron
  webmaster at bpsd9.org

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Phil Arcuni <plarcuni at sprynet.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> This scheme is still posted, and you are the most knowledgeable on the
> subject. I did notice that the older IP address is still showing. Please
> respond to the query at your earliest convenience.
>
> Best, Phil
>
> P/R/C Philip Arcuni, SN
> Information Technology Committee
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Penneman, Roger B" <roger.b.penneman at lmco.com>
> To: <plarcuni at sprynet.com>
> Cc: "two way communication for webmasters" <webmaster_forum at usps.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:48 PM
> Subject: [Webmaster_forum] Secure web site area for members only
>
>
> > Is this technique for creating password-protected areas on squadron
> > websites still valid?
> > http://www.usps.org/national/itcom/shared/help/simple_password.html
> >
> > Lately it seems that anything on the national server is available to
> > Google, to the point that I now have to scrub our newsletter before
> > posting a pdf version.  So I want to set up a secure area for pages that
> > contain private information.  Any tips?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Roger Penneman
> > Fort Worth
> > _______________________________________________
> > Webmaster_Forum mailing list
> > Webmaster_Forum at usps.org
> > http://www.usps.org/mailman/listinfo/webmaster_forum
>
> _______________________________________________
> Webmaster_Forum mailing list
> Webmaster_Forum at usps.org
> http://www.usps.org/mailman/listinfo/webmaster_forum
>
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From roger.b.penneman at lmco.com  Thu Mar 13 10:20:14 2008
From: roger.b.penneman at lmco.com (Penneman, Roger B)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:20:14 -0500
Subject: [Webmaster_forum] Secure web site area for members only
In-Reply-To: <024701c88513$da2aa5c0$ca01a8c0@JRB>
References: <708B267DA6CD0A4484FB84973D64B4630F3D3544@emss07m15.us.lmco.com>
	<00d501c8847a$697b3d60$6501a8c0@phildesktop>
	<20080313031219.55FA51BF4A2@smtp0.av-mx.com>
	<024701c88513$da2aa5c0$ca01a8c0@JRB>
Message-ID: <708B267DA6CD0A4484FB84973D64B4630F43E8BF@emss07m15.us.lmco.com>

My impression was that the password-protected area mentioned in the
beginning of the thread would be blocked from search engines, as well as
anyone else without the password.  Doesn't the meta tag "robot"
accomplish the same thing as robot.txt, but applied to individual pages?

Roger Penneman

-----Original Message-----
From: John R. Bradley [mailto:jrb at accurecord.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:09 AM
To: 'Dan Bartell'; 'Phil Arcuni'
Cc: Penneman, Roger B; 'two way communication for webmasters'
Subject: RE: [Webmaster_forum] Secure web site area for members only

Isn't this a question of having a facility to maintain robots.txt which
sits at \web\webroot and is suppose to tell indexing robots where not to
go? Or alternatively if we had a policy of allowing a "secure" directory
under any localusps directory that wants a secure directory we could add
a statement like DISALLOW \localusps\*\secure and accomplish the desired
result.
John Bradley 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Bartell [mailto:dtb at usps.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:12 PM
To: Phil Arcuni
Cc: John Bradley; Penneman, Roger B; two way communication for
webmasters
Subject: Re: [Webmaster_forum] Secure web site area for members only

Understand Guys that this is what Dave turned up and I did tell you guys
a while back that one of the major problems was that google would index
everything.

You need to get Dave to tell people how to exclude directories from the
search and he needs to manage that.

Cheers,
Dan
PS:  Other than this problem the search works great At 15:36 3/12/2008,
Phil Arcuni wrote:
>Hello,
>
>This scheme is still posted, and you are the most knowledgeable on the 
>subject. I did notice that the older IP address is still showing. 
>Please respond to the query at your earliest convenience.
>
>Best, Phil
>
>P/R/C Philip Arcuni, SN
>Information Technology Committee
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Penneman, Roger B" 
><roger.b.penneman at lmco.com>
>To: <plarcuni at sprynet.com>
>Cc: "two way communication for webmasters" <webmaster_forum at usps.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:48 PM
>Subject: [Webmaster_forum] Secure web site area for members only
>
>
>>Is this technique for creating password-protected areas on squadron 
>>websites still valid?
>>http://www.usps.org/national/itcom/shared/help/simple_password.html
>>
>>Lately it seems that anything on the national server is available to 
>>Google, to the point that I now have to scrub our newsletter before 
>>posting a pdf version.  So I want to set up a secure area for pages 
>>that contain private information.  Any tips?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Roger Penneman
>>Fort Worth
>>_______________________________________________
>>Webmaster_Forum mailing list
>>Webmaster_Forum at usps.org
>>http://www.usps.org/mailman/listinfo/webmaster_forum
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>P/C Dan Bartell, SN
>SEO - Shallotte River Sail & Power Squadron - D27 (NC)
>Member USPS National Information Technology Committee   



From webmaster at bpsd9.org  Thu Mar 13 14:22:05 2008
From: webmaster at bpsd9.org (Lt. Julian Fiander, P)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:22:05 -0400
Subject: [Webmaster_forum] Secure web site area for members only
In-Reply-To: <708B267DA6CD0A4484FB84973D64B4630F43E8BF@emss07m15.us.lmco.com>
References: <708B267DA6CD0A4484FB84973D64B4630F3D3544@emss07m15.us.lmco.com>
	<00d501c8847a$697b3d60$6501a8c0@phildesktop>
	<20080313031219.55FA51BF4A2@smtp0.av-mx.com>
	<024701c88513$da2aa5c0$ca01a8c0@JRB>
	<708B267DA6CD0A4484FB84973D64B4630F43E8BF@emss07m15.us.lmco.com>
Message-ID: <e713dcfd0803131122y393bb473gb1027d660b93fc1@mail.gmail.com>

If the USPS servers have PHP installed, there is a moderately simple method
of excluding any viewer, by either IP or name, from viewing any/all (your
choice as webmaster) pages on your site.

If it is not installed, then I can be of little assistance in this matter.

Lt. Julian Fiander
  Birmingham Power Squadron

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Penneman, Roger B <
roger.b.penneman at lmco.com> wrote:

> My impression was that the password-protected area mentioned in the
> beginning of the thread would be blocked from search engines, as well as
> anyone else without the password.  Doesn't the meta tag "robot"
> accomplish the same thing as robot.txt, but applied to individual pages?
>
> Roger Penneman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John R. Bradley [mailto:jrb at accurecord.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:09 AM
> To: 'Dan Bartell'; 'Phil Arcuni'
> Cc: Penneman, Roger B; 'two way communication for webmasters'
> Subject: RE: [Webmaster_forum] Secure web site area for members only
>
> Isn't this a question of having a facility to maintain robots.txt which
> sits at \web\webroot and is suppose to tell indexing robots where not to
> go? Or alternatively if we had a policy of allowing a "secure" directory
> under any localusps directory that wants a secure directory we could add
> a statement like DISALLOW \localusps\*\secure and accomplish the desired
> result.
> John Bradley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Bartell [mailto:dtb at usps.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:12 PM
> To: Phil Arcuni
> Cc: John Bradley; Penneman, Roger B; two way communication for
> webmasters
> Subject: Re: [Webmaster_forum] Secure web site area for members only
>
> Understand Guys that this is what Dave turned up and I did tell you guys
> a while back that one of the major problems was that google would index
> everything.
>
> You need to get Dave to tell people how to exclude directories from the
> search and he needs to manage that.
>
> Cheers,
> Dan
> PS:  Other than this problem the search works great At 15:36 3/12/2008,
> Phil Arcuni wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >This scheme is still posted, and you are the most knowledgeable on the
> >subject. I did notice that the older IP address is still showing.
> >Please respond to the query at your earliest convenience.
> >
> >Best, Phil
> >
> >P/R/C Philip Arcuni, SN
> >Information Technology Committee
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Penneman, Roger B"
> ><roger.b.penneman at lmco.com>
> >To: <plarcuni at sprynet.com>
> >Cc: "two way communication for webmasters" <webmaster_forum at usps.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:48 PM
> >Subject: [Webmaster_forum] Secure web site area for members only
> >
> >
> >>Is this technique for creating password-protected areas on squadron
> >>websites still valid?
> >>http://www.usps.org/national/itcom/shared/help/simple_password.html
> >>
> >>Lately it seems that anything on the national server is available to
> >>Google, to the point that I now have to scrub our newsletter before
> >>posting a pdf version.  So I want to set up a secure area for pages
> >>that contain private information.  Any tips?
> >>
> >>Thanks.
> >>
> >>Roger Penneman
> >>Fort Worth
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>Webmaster_Forum mailing list
> >>Webmaster_Forum at usps.org
> >>http://www.usps.org/mailman/listinfo/webmaster_forum
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >P/C Dan Bartell, SN
> >SEO - Shallotte River Sail & Power Squadron - D27 (NC)
> >Member USPS National Information Technology Committee
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Webmaster_Forum mailing list
> Webmaster_Forum at usps.org
> http://www.usps.org/mailman/listinfo/webmaster_forum
>
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From webmaster at bpsd9.org  Sun Mar 16 01:26:33 2008
From: webmaster at bpsd9.org (Lt. Julian Fiander, P)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:26:33 -0400
Subject: [Webmaster_forum] PHP Search Engine Excluder Script
Message-ID: <e713dcfd0803152226y211d1f7fs971f985c7593265@mail.gmail.com>

For anyone who has access to PHP, here is a very simple way to prevent a
search engine from having access to your website:

To add another exclusion setting, add the user-agent name encapsed in single
quotes ( *YES:* *'* *NO:* *"* *or* *`* ) *as it appears* in a
$_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT'] call.  This shouldn't be too hard to find out.
Do not change anything that is in *red*.
Place this code AT THE TOP of any page to be protected.**

*NOTE:* Default mode for any non-specified user-agent is ALLOW ACCESS
( Included are a few common search engines. )

Remember, this file is executed on the server, not client.  This makes the
entire process totally secure.

********************************************************************************
***

<?php
$agent = strtoupper($_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT']);
**$no_go = array(*'Googlebot','Yahoo','MSN','archiver','Ask','ZyBorg'*);*
*$len = count($no_go);
for ($i=0;$i<$len;$i++) {*
*if (strpos($agent,$no_go[$i])!==FALSE) {die('');}***
*}
?>*****
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From webmaster at bpsd9.org  Sun Mar 16 14:37:02 2008
From: webmaster at bpsd9.org (Lt. Julian Fiander, P)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:37:02 -0400
Subject: [Webmaster_forum] MyUSPS - A free,
	personalizable utility for squadron websites
Message-ID: <e713dcfd0803161137q15a98213v94e3c5d1059e42d5@mail.gmail.com>

These files come without any styles included.
They have comments to help any webmaster integrate them into their website.

They REQUIRE PHP and MySQL access.  Without PHP and MySQL, you cannot use
these files.
http://php.net    http://mysql.com

Download the files at:
http://usps.bpsd9.org/MyUSPS.zip

Please read the README file for more information.  If you need assistance,
please email me.

Lt. Julian Fiander
  Webmaster
  Birmingham Power Squadron
  http://bpsd9.org
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From pbpsus at excite.com  Fri Mar 21 08:58:53 2008
From: pbpsus at excite.com (Glen Sherman)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:58:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Webmaster_forum] Boating is fun..
Message-ID: <20080321125853.5617C8B315@xprdmxin.myway.com>

 
Bill &amp; All Webmasters,
I don?t have any problem with ?Boating is fun . . We?ll show you how?. It?s a nice catchy phrase and SUGGESTING we include it makes perfect sense. Requiring us to include it might even be a good idea BUT, telling us exactly where to place it has now gone way over the line. Lets recap, we have the required ?A unit of United States Power Squadrons?, then we add the required ?Sail and Power Boating?, let?s toss in ?America?s Boating Club? so we don?t lose any points, and now we want to add ?Boating is fun . . We?ll show you how? so we don?t lose 2 more points. Oh, and it must be in the header. Why don?t we just add a new catch phrase each year or two and require them all to be in the header so that in 20 years we all have web sites that are just a long list of catchy phrases with no room for anything else. Not only does this become a page layout issue where I would have to redesign our header to make this fit and adjust the space available for the header on over 70 pages, but we 
are developing a serious ?branding? problem. What is the consistent recognizable identity that we want to project to the public so that they will remember us? We can?t seem to find one! If you want to ask or even require webmasters to use the new slogan, allow them some creative space to place it where they feel it is most appropriate and makes sense with the other material on the page.
?Being a squadron webmaster is fun . . Let?s try to ruin it?
Glen Sherman, P
Webmaster Peconic Bay Power Squadron www.PBPS.us
and District 3 Public Relations OfficerPeconic Bay Power Squadronwww.pbps.us Continuing education, community service, fun and friendshipfor boaters in the Peconic Bay, Long Island, New York area.

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From WMMILLER at aol.com  Fri Mar 21 10:04:59 2008
From: WMMILLER at aol.com (WMMILLER at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:04:59 EDT
Subject: [Webmaster_forum] Boating is fun..
Message-ID: <ca3.2acb0457.35151a8b@aol.com>

 
Glen, just one point.  Not sure where it was stated that the new tag  line 
had to be in the header.  Just the requirement that when you home page  was open 
it was visible without having to scroll down to find it.  Doesn't  look like 
a major redesign requirement.  Where is it stated that it has to  be on all 
the 70 pages of your website?
 
Bill Miller
Web Awards Chairman, 2008
 
In a message dated 3/21/2008 7:29:15 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
pbpsus at excite.com writes:

Bill & All  Webmasters, 
I don?t have  any problem with ?Boating is fun . . We?ll show you how?. It?
s a nice  catchy phrase and SUGGESTING we include it makes perfect sense.  
Requiring us to include it might even be a good idea BUT, telling us  exactly 
where to place it has now gone way over the line. Lets recap, we  have the 
required ?A unit of United States Power Squadrons?, then we add  the required ?Sail 
and Power Boating?, let?s toss in  ?America?s Boating  Club? so we don?t 
lose any points, and now we want to add ?Boating is  fun . . We?ll show you how
? so we don?t lose 2 more points. Oh, and it  must be in the header. Why don?
t we just add a new catch phrase each  year or two and require them all to be 
in the header so that in 20 years  we all have web sites that are just a long 
list of catchy phrases with  no room for anything else. Not only does this 
become a page layout issue  where I would have to redesign our header to make 
this fit and adjust  the space available for the header on over 70 pages, but we 
are  developing a serious ?branding? problem. What is the consistent  
recognizable identity that we want to project to the public so that they  will 
remember us? We can?t seem to find one! If you want to ask or even  require 
webmasters to use the new slogan, allow them some creative space  to place it where 
they feel it is most appropriate and makes sense with  the other material on 
the page. 
?Being a  squadron webmaster is fun . . Let?s try to ruin  it? 
Glen Sherman,  P 
Webmaster  Peconic Bay Power Squadron _www.PBPS.us_ (http://www.pbps.us/)  
and District 3  Public Relations Officer

Peconic Bay Power  Squadron
_www.pbps.us_ (http://www.pbps.us/)  
Continuing education,  community service, fun and friendship
for boaters in the Peconic Bay,  Long Island, New York area.
 
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From pbpsus at excite.com  Fri Mar 21 10:19:05 2008
From: pbpsus at excite.com (Glen Sherman)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:19:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Webmaster_forum] Boating is fun..
Message-ID: <20080321141905.49B028B310@xprdmxin.myway.com>

 
?If you put this on your home page, under the subtitle requirement in a legible font, color and size?
To me, under the subtitle requirement means in the header because that?s there the subtitle requirement needs to be. For a consistent look, I use the same header for every page, along with the same style menu layout so viewers will not be confused.
Glen Sherman, P
Webmaster Peconic Bay Power Squadron www.PBPS.us
and District 3 Public Relations OfficerPeconic Bay Power Squadronwww.pbps.usContinuing education, community service, fun and friendshipfor boaters in the Peconic Bay, Long Island, New York area.--- On Fri 03/21, &lt; WMMILLER at aol.com &gt; wrote:
From: [mailto: WMMILLER at aol.com]To: webmaster at pbps.usCc: webmaster_forum at usps.orgDate: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:04:59 EDTSubject: Re: [Webmaster_forum] Boating is fun..


Glen, just one point.  Not sure where it was stated that the new tag line had to be in the header.  Just the requirement that when you home page was open it was visible without having to scroll down to find it.  Doesn't look like a major redesign requirement.  Where is it stated that it has to be on all the 70 pages of your website? Bill MillerWeb Awards Chairman, 2008 In a message dated 3/21/2008 7:29:15 A.M. Central Standard Time, pbpsus at excite.com writes:




Bill &amp; All Webmasters,
I don???t have any problem with ???Boating is fun . . We???ll show you how???. It???s a nice catchy phrase and SUGGESTING we include it makes perfect sense. Requiring us to include it might even be a good idea BUT, telling us exactly where to place it has now gone way over the line. Lets recap, we have the required ???A unit of United States Power Squadrons???, then we add the required ???Sail and Power Boating???, let???s toss in ???America???s Boating Club??? so we don???t lose any points, and now we want to add ???Boating is fun . . We???ll show you how??? so we don???t lose 2 more points. Oh, and it must be in the header. Why don???t we just add a new catch phrase each year or two and require them all to be in the header so that in 20 years we all have web sites that are just a long list of catchy phrases with no room for anything else. Not only does this become a page layout issue where I would have to redesign our header to make this fit and adjust the space available 
for the header on over 70 pages, but we are developing a serious ???branding??? problem. What is the consistent recognizable identity that we want to project to the public so that they will remember us? We can???t seem to find one! If you want to ask or even require webmasters to use the new slogan, allow them some creative space to place it where they feel it is most appropriate and makes sense with the other material on the page.
???Being a squadron webmaster is fun . . Let???s try to ruin it???
Glen Sherman, P
Webmaster Peconic Bay Power Squadron www.PBPS.us
and District 3 Public Relations OfficerPeconic Bay Power Squadronwww.pbps.us Continuing education, community service, fun and friendshipfor boaters in the Peconic Bay, Long Island, New York area.


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From WMMILLER at aol.com  Fri Mar 21 12:21:57 2008
From: WMMILLER at aol.com (WMMILLER at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:21:57 EDT
Subject: [Webmaster_forum] Boating is fun..
Message-ID: <cb0.2769746d.35153aa5@aol.com>

Glen, that is your choice.  The only requirements for USPS websites  are 
those spelled out on the web requirements page of the ITCom web site.   They are 
the nine points that are at the beginning of the score sheet.   Every thing 
else has to do with the Web Awards program and are not requirements  just what is 
looked at during the evaluation effort.
 
Bill Miller



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